The new National Curriculum in England needs to be rooted in evidence. Does this evidence base include everyone - all ages and stages? What are the ‘reliable and meaningful insights’ and ‘effective disciplinary thinking’ for our subject (Interim report, DfE, 2024)? Join the GA's Teacher Education Phase Committee to reflect about this, the norms around ‘knowledge-rich’ approaches (now in their second decade), and debates around skills in geography.